Is Tebow Hype In Football Equal To Strasburg Hype in Baseball?

Its rare that I would care about somehting like this, but it was completely shocking to see how much Tebow’s base rookie out of elite is going for. Now, it would be one thing if the guy had a shot at starting and doing well, but for a late half first round pick who is third on the depth chart, this is ridiculous.

You all know my feelings on Tebow’s prospect of doing well in this league, but when you have a base card numbered to 999 that is selling at this price, I start to wonder what certain people are smoking. Sam Bradford, the number one pick in the draft, is selling at five dollars less, something I find pretty amazing. Also, the unsigned version of the NFL shield card is selling quite high as well, which is funny because it isnt even part of the normal Elite base set.

Again, prospecting is one thing, but when you buy in at the 85th floor instead of getting in on the ground level, you have a few screws loose. A number of sites have been talking about the dissaray of the Rams’ offensive line, and that hasn’t hurt Bradford’s price, so I guess that being buried behind Orton and Quinn for the moment wouldn’t hurt people’s understanding of the potential of a guy with throwing and accuracy problems.

Just when I thought my respect level for certain things couldn’t get any lower, right?

Think Twice Before Throwing Your Money Away

have always stood by the fact that investing early in the top QBs of the class is a terrible idea. Although many of them have the talent to be good QBs, the teams they usually go to are horrible for promoting growth in a young player that starts from Day 1. There are always exceptions to the rule, but in most cases, they fail quite hard until later in their career.

The main factors that should go into your decision of whether or not to buy usually rests with the team the guy plays for. In the case of Matthew Stafford, I advised to stay far away because of the team he played for. The offensive line was in shambles, the running game still need to prove its worth, and Calvin Johnson was all they had to help Stafford out. Sure enough, Stafford got banged around and ended up missing six games due to injury. In the case of Mark Sanchez, the Jets were in a MUCH different situation, and it showed. Although I didn’t think pumping dollars into Sanchez was a good idea either, at least he had better prospects of doing well off the bat.

In 2008, the situation was very similar to 2009 with Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Matt Ryan was coming back to a Falcons team that had pieces in place, but no one to lead. Flacco had a super bowl contender in Baltimore, having been drafted late in the first round. Because the Falcons and Ravens had better teams to complement the talent of the QBs, they did much better than expected.

This year, there are quite a few players that are already tickling the collective nutsacks of prospectors looking to burn a few bucks. The top guy should be Sam Bradford, likely going to the Rams after a DISASTEROUS 2009 season. Bradford has size and talent, and is expected to be a good quarterback. The Rams’ lack of success could be as much attributed to injuries as anything, as many of their starters spent the year on the pine. Does this mean he is worth throwing a ton of money at when the products are released? Fuck no. Bradford is not going to have the year that Ryan had, and probably wont even have the underperforming year that Sanchez had on a playoff team. The Rams will go 3-13 at best, and that’s if Steven Jackson stays healthy. On the other hand, the Rams do have some talent that is building up to be good players. Jason Smith had a below average year, but is showing promise. Same with Donnie Avery and some of the other pieces of the Rams offense. This may help Bradford in the long run, but will limit his immediate potential.

As for Jimmy Clausen, Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow, it is likely that they will have a similar experience. Clausen may end up in Washington at number 4 or Cleveland at number 7, with both teams being terrible in their offensive prowess. McCoy may end up as a 2nd round pick, as will Tebow, and both should spend their first years on the bench. In McCoy’s case, injuries likely put him out of the first round to begin with, though he has the talent to be a great QB. Tebow, well, if you throw money at his cards, you might as well burn that cash instead. As evidenced by his pro day film, he still has major problems with the exact issues he had before and may even end up as a Wildcat QB/TE when all is said and done. With the Wildcat becoming more of a tolerated offense, he is likely to spend more time on the bench than on the field during his career.

People may cite the success of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Tony Romo as reasons to get in on the ground floor, but I disagree. Prospecting has become so commonplace in football that prices are high from the beginning. In fact, the price Matt Ryan commanded originally didn’t grow THAT much over the course of his successful first season. Paying an extra 20-30 bucks, shouldn’t be that big of a deal once the guy proves his worth to his team.

Basically, your best targets will always be WRs and RBs. Top WRs are usually on the field from day one, with many being productive from the get go. Backs are the same, especially with 99% of the teams using a two back system. They command the value that they do because of that early production, though only the running backs will carry it on consistently. Funny enough, this year is so loaded with defensive talent, there could be a starvation rule in effect, with many collectors wondering what direction to go. It should be interesting to see where things end up.

Is This A Sign Of Things To Come?

Pro football talk recently posted a story about hundreds of people showing up to meet Tim Tebow at store in Florida. Although the people showing up should be no surprise, the price that he was charging seems a little high. 160 bucks to sign and 75 for pictures isnt astronomical, but usually it isnt until after the draft that they can charge THAT kind of money. That is not what my post is about.

Aside from the kid who flew from Pennsylvania to meet his personal Jesus Football Christ, this should give us an interesting clue as to how much Tebow’s cards may be worth right off the bat. Heisman winners are a special breed that autograph collectors chase (even Danny Wuerffle still signs for cash), and Tebow is a little bit more than a Heisman winner right now. Even though he will most likely end up as late round pick with nothing of a career, he is a guy that many people would pay A LOT of money to get signatures of. After reading this story, Im wondering if one of the worst QB’s in the draft may have a signature worth more than the guys who actually have a shot at being good in the NFL!
Yes, I know that Tebow can cure cancer with his post-game tears, can raise a girls cup size by two with a wink, and can turn a SOLO cup of water into beer, but he cant throw. Plain and simple. Its the same reason why Danny Wuerffle and all those other Florida QBs arent even close to the NFL right now. That wont stop some people from paying a shitload of their hard earned cash to get a piece of the next Akili Smith.
Check out these auctions for him right now:
Signed Jersey – This has a GAI cert and is still going for a ton! People dont trust GAI for a reason!
Signed Jersey – This one looks worse than the other one, but still has someone willing to pay a hundred for it! I wonder if he signed it “Tim Tebow – I can walk on water” that would make it worth more?
Signed Picture – I cant even explain this price. Peterson goes for under this. ADRIAN FUCKING PETERSON. Plus this picture is a little weird right? Remember, this guy has not and may not play a snap in the NFL.

Another Signed Jersey – More money, still has a GAI cert. I wouldnt touch this with someone else’s ten foot pole, but because its Tim Tebow, someone did.

Honestly people, you know how much I hate this guy, especially after that stupid ass super bowl commercial. I seriously cant understand why anyone wants to pay as much money for this guy’s autograph, when in 3-5 years, no one will know who he is. I get that he was a great college player, but there have been hundreds JUST like him with a similar resume. I just dont see any reason to go out of my way to buy stuff from a guy when I could get it hundreds cheaper in a few years.

A (Non) Comment On The Worthless Press Pass Exclusive

So far today, Press Pass has made a huge hulabaloo about an inconsequential detail that will affect no one but impatient Florida fans who buy SAGE. Sooooo, not many people. Right. Press Pass announced through a release that they had signed Tim Tebow to an “exclusive contract,” but that the contract is only exclusive to their competitor. For those of you who actually like Tim Tebow for some god forsaken reason, you will still be able to get him in every single NFL licensed set this year regardless of press pass’ news. Don’t worry your little Christian heads, Tebow will still be able to walk on water through your personal collections.

Really, since the NFLPA has a no exclusives rule, as soon as a set is licensed by the NFL, Tebow is fair game post NFL draft. Although I am sad that I will have to put up with this glorified fourth round pick all freaking year, there is no reason to get your panties in a bunch unless you are a SAGE collector who loves him. Tracy Hackler may have tried to over-hype Tebow’s potential like putting lipstick on a pig, but most of us still know he could end up being the biggest draft reach in NFL history. He may be able to run and jump, but that means absolutely nothing when he has to work in a pro offense he has never seen before. Oh, and try and get that long ridiculous motion all the way through with Jared Allen or Dwight Freeney coming at you. Yeah, its not going to work.

Being a winner in college means dog shit when you cant play with the big boys.

Also, the press pass exclusive pretty much becomes a moot discussion when Upper Deck gets the exclusive CLC license starting in a month or two. So really, Press Pass may be out of football cards all together.

In other words, move along, nothing to see here.

Wild Card Royal Rumble: Rev Warner’s House

I think this is the first time in a long time that I watched most of each of the Wild Card games if the Vikings werent playing. They were all incredibly entertaining, and the Packers game had me on the edge of my seat throughout the entire second half. I could not believe what transpired, but ill get to that.


Every single person I know thought the Bengals were going to kill the Jets, including a coworker, whose office went from covered in Bengals stuff on Friday to covered in Reds stuff today. Even though the Bengals were pretty banged up, they still had a better team on paper, and had the fire power to make the Jets pay. Yet, Sanchez protected the ball, the rushing game was great, and Shonn Greene ran one in from 40 yards out. That’s pretty much all the Jets did to win. I even think Boomer Esiason looked bummed on CBS the following day.


This one was not too suprising in the final score, but definitely surprising as to how they got there. I wanted the Cowboys to win because I thought the Vikings had a better shot against them than against the winner of the other NFC game, but I never expected them to bludgeon the Eagles with a hammer as big as they did. Turnovers, mistakes, dropped balls, everything, and you cant win when that happens. Maclin’s TD was pretty scary for me, because I can now see what the Eagles are going to have come two years from now in Jackson and Maclin. Holy crap. To Al Davis: You are a fucking idiot for drafting Darrius Craphead-Bey. Look at what you passed up – Crabtree, Harvin, Maclin, Wallace, Nicks, Collie, wow.


I was shocked that the Pats looked as bad as they did from the first play of the game. I knew the Ravens would win because of how hurt New England was, and how good Baltimore is, but I didn’t expect a blowout. Its great because I hate the Patriots, but bad because the Ravens look good enough to beat anyone again. How ridiculous is Ray Rice? I am totally shocked that he has turned out to be as good as he is. Usually the little backs run like human bowling balls, but Rice has moves like MJD.


I went to get lunch during half time, and I came back expecting the game to continue the way it had. Little did I know that Aaron Rodgers would put on his Hulk face and battle back, something that I didn’t think was possible after the first half. I was even more shocked when they tied it up, and my heart jumped when Rackers missed the field goal to send it to OT. Im surprised that the Packers looked so flat in their first few plays before the fumble after that, and I am even more shocked that they didn’t review the fumble due to the fucking gross “tuck rule.” Either way, I am elated that the Packers are out of the hunt, as I believed they were one of the most dangerous teams in the playoffs. To think that a playoff game ended with 100 points on the board is ludicrous, and I have a feeling that Michael Adams and the Cardinals defense are going to be running laps today.



This is going to be an EPIC matchup and I have a good feeling that the Vikings can win. Its going to be a battle, especially with how the Cowboys’ defense has been playing, though I think the Vikings are too good on fake grass to let it stop them. I expect Peterson to have an okay game, but the real story is going to be Favre/Rice. They have a real chance to show what they got against Jenkins, and I believe they can get the upper hand. Rice is a different type of receiver than DeSean Jackson, and im not sure if Jenkins will be as good against him. However, with Felix Jones, Witten and Miles Austin on the other side, it may not matter. The Vikings have trouble with speed, power and agility, traits that all three possess, meaning nightmares for the purple all day.


If I were Sean Payton, I would make Michael Adams look foolish for four quarters and call it a day. The guy almost lost the game for the Cardnials with his stupid plays, despite the forced fumble at the end. I actually have a feeling they started blitzing him because he couldn’t cover, even though he had already fucked it up once on the long Rodgers pass play earlier. Boldin may not play again, which didn’t seem to matter this past week, but it should matter this coming week. The Cardinals are going to need every bit of offense they can muster, because I think Drew Brees is going to cut them up like Tebow on an uncircumsized adult penis.


I believe that this could be the best game of next week in the making. The teams are so evenly matched that I am not able to pick a winner quite yet. Manning is amazing, but the Ravens’ defense is ridiculous. Rice and Flacco are crazy, but they are going to have to deal with Mathis and Freeney all day. Reggie Wayne is tearing it up, but Ed Reed looks invincible. I am so excited for this game that I cant even say.


Phillip Rivers is going to go off like a bomb. The Jets don’t stand a chance. Regardless if Revis plays on Jackson the whole day, it wont matter in the grand scheme of things. This is going to be a bloodbath, and I don’t even need to say much else about what is about to transpire.

Wild Card Weekend MVP: Kurt Warner – he must have prayed extra hard to Jeebus because he had the game of his life. He needed it too, because there was no way the Cards had a shot in the second half if he pussied out.

Rookie of the Week:
Jeremy Maclin – That pass play was great, and he didn’t even stop there. 7 for 146 has to be close to the rookie record, which should be great for his card values coming out of this loss.